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Thursday 8th August 2019
“A National Anthem for
at The Edinburgh Yes Hub (Fringe Venue 325), 31 Lasswade Road, Edinburgh EH16 6TD
presented this talk/concert five times in
- Also, on Sunday 18th August, 5:00pm "A History of Scotland in Fifteen Songs" - same venue, same ticket arrangements. -
This is a matter which brings much
discussion - some serious, some biased, some arguments put
forward with little thought, some with too little spontaneity.
This page is to be seen as no more than the author's own personal views, although I have tried to see the good and bad sides of everything. However, my personal leanings will be obvious.
Officially, the National Anthem in Scotland is that of the United Kingdom - God Save the Queen. However, for many years a variety of songs have been used as unofficial anthems at events that were not matters of state, or which had a definite Scottish flavour. In recent years Flower of Scotland has become a kind of unofficial official national anthem, especially at sporting events.
The main contenders for the Scottish National Anthem are as follows (in alphabetical order);
|A Man's a Man||Auld Lang Syne|
|Flower of Scotland||Freedom Come All Ye|
|God Save the Queen||Hermless|
|Scotland the Brave||Scots Wha Hae|
|A Man's a Man
words by Robert Burns
|Is there, for honest poverty
That hings his head, an' a' that?
The coward slave, we pass him by
We dare be poor for a' that!
For a' that, an' a' that,
Our toils obscure , an' a' that;
The rank is but the the guinea's stamp;
The Man's the gowd for a' that!
What tho on hamely fare we dine,
Ye see yon birkie ca'd a lord,
A prince can mak a belted knight,
Then let us pray that come it may,
|General Comments; This is a song well-respected
worldwide. It may be a good thing (some maybe think it a
bad thing) that the words in fact do not mention Scotland
by name. It could be an anthem for any country . . . as
long as they were happy to sing in Scots.
The verses are quite different from each other - sung with understanding this can be quite a strong feature of the song, but can also be the road to failure through boredom.
Singability; Moves along quite nicely, and quite an easy song to follow and to sing, except for the end of the penultimate line which goes high quite suddenly.
Playability; Quite suitable for most styles, I think.
Positive; It would be good to have a decent piece of writing for an anthem ! Already known by many people.
Negative; Some people have a problem with the
"man" bit - is it sexist ? I don't think so. You
just have to remember that "men" is often correctly used
to mean "people". (Big philological argument. Let's not
|Auld Lang Syne
words by Robert Burns
|Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And auld lang syne?
And surely ye'll be your pint-stowp,
We twa hae run about the braes,
We twa hae paidl'd in the burn
And there's a hand my trusty fiere,
|General Comments; Many of the same attributes as
A Man's a Man - known, international, not
specifically Scottish. One of the few songs which, when
the band plays a couple of introductory chords at the end
of the ceilidh/wedding, everybody knows what to do and
what to sing, even if they get confused about when to
cross hands and so on. If taken up as a national anthem,
would it be the only one in the world that also has
accepted movements ?
One problem might be the pre-existing controversy about the tune. The tune known by most people is not the original - the originally in Burns' mind being generally preferred by traditional music nerds (myself included). On the other hand - alternative tunes for the same anthem ? Why not ?
Singability; Yes. As is well proven over many years and in many situations. All styles of singer - solo to large group. It seems to work fine.
Playability; Well suited to most styles and groupings.
Positive; Known worldwide, and respected.
Negative; Maybe it is too well known already in an international sense. And maybe it is too tied up with Hogmanay/New Year.
Written by Roy Williamson
|O flower of Scotland
When will we see
Your like again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
The hills are bare now
Those days are past now
(Reprise first verse)
|General Comments; Already accepted by many to be
Scotland's national song, although I think it is only
officially such for international football and rugby
fixtures. It has high popularity, is known by most, and
sung happily by many. It holds that position which only
good anthems do; it carries some official status, yet it
is still sung voluntarily by people when drunk !
In my view the worst thing about the words is that they refer to things past, to one victory in a history that records just as many defeats. It suggests that our nation is currently in a state of failure, and that we should base our aspirations for the future on a historic fighting attitude.
Singability; The timing is actually trickier
than most people think. This can be mastered easily by a
solo singer, and a small group can easily hold the tune
together. However, many of us will have been embarrassed
by the attempts of a Scottish crowd to sing this at a
football or rugby match. It can easily fall to pieces.
Is this because of the rest between most lines ?
There will always be somebody willing to jump straight
into the next line. Maybe also the fact that many of the
lines are short, and that two lines can often be managed
on one breath, lends it to rushing. So a band keeps to
the proper timing, and the crowd rushes away.
Playability; Not the best, actually. I believe that there is a note that can't be played on the bagpipes.
Positive; Popular. Well-kent. Very popular, even. The choice of the majority. Sung well (and without the "who" - see below), it really can sound good.
Negative; Carries an attitude which is insular
and negative, and can be seen as anti-English. Much of
the section of the population who like it so much think
of it as being anti-English. Casual, tongue-in-cheek
anti-Englishness might be ok in informal situations, but
might be inappropriate in a formal context.
Words by Hamish Henderson
|Roch the wind in the clear day’s dawin
Blaws the cloods heelster-gowdy ow'r the bay
But there's mair nor a roch wind blawin
Through the great glen o' the warld the day.
It's a thocht that will gar oor rottans
A' they rogues that gang gallus, fresh and gay
Tak the road, and seek ither loanins
For their ill ploys, tae sport and play.
Nae mair will the bonnie callants
So come all ye at hame wi' Freedom,
Of all the songs on this page, this is the most internationalist, the most self-depracating, the least nationalist. The one which most, by its humility, shows the greatest sense of national self pride. It says nothing bad about anybody but ourselves, but also makes you believe that all wrongs can be righted.
I like this one, by the way.
Singability; Good, both for professionals and amateurs. Not just the easiest of tunes, but can be learned fairly readily, even with its odd time signature. The words, being such concentrated Scots, really take some learning. The tune lies all within one octave, and makes it good for singing by a group of people with mixed singing ranges.
Playability; Quite easy for most instruments,
and can be played as anything from a lament to a march !
If adopted as the anthem, a decision would have to be
made to standardise the timing, as the song and the
instrumental tune have slightly different time
Positive; Totally politically correct words. No insult given to anybody in any country. Strong. High quality of words and music. The lyrics are anything but shallow.
Negative; Not generally known. Difficult words to understand even for most Scots, being written in a language which is not most people's first language.
|God Save the
attr. to Henry Carey, 1740
|God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and Glorious,
Long to reign over us;
God save the Queen!
O Lord our God arise,
Thy choicest gifts in store
Not in this land alone,
From every latent foe,
|General Comments; This song is very well known,
but only as far as verse one. Many people criticise the
second (specifically anti-Scottish) verse, which is
apparently no longer an official part of the UK National
Anthem. (In fact there is no "official" version: the UK
Government website states "There is no authorised version of the National
Anthem as the words are a matter of tradition.".)
Normally only the first verse is sung, and on more fomal
occassions sometimes the first and third.
Singability; Quite easily sung, but difficult to do much with it that is original.
Playability; Has been proven over the years to be quite playable by most instrumental mixes.
Positive; People already know it and recognise it, both here and abroad.
Negative; This goes against the politics of a
large number of Scots, is seen by many as an
"establishment" song, and is certainly non-inclusive. It
does not give Scotland an identity.
Words and Music by Michael Marra
Wi' ma hand on ma hert and ma hert in ma mooth
Hermless, hermless, There's never nae bother fae me
I save a' the coupons that come wi' the soup
Hermless, hermless, There's never nae bother fae me
There's ane or twa lads wha I could cry my chums
Hermless, hermless, There's never nae bother fae me
Hermless, hermless, there's never nae bother fae me
|General Comments; Few who suggest this really
believe it could actually be an anthem, but then with a
wry smile wonder "Why not, it's hermless ?" This is the
kind of song that the Scottish football supporter of the
1970s or earlier would have thought far too soft, but that
the new touchie-feelie Tartan Army might feel comfortable
Singability; Surprisingly difficult, just like much of Marra's work. Great though with a small bunch of folk who all know it, and who can take on the chorus, and maybe even sing the mandolin (?) part !
Playability; Moderate. I've never heard it done as a piece by a large band. Could be interesting.
Positive; Just so totally different from any other country's anthem, it would probably become the world's favourite. Fun to sing. And who could complain about any of it ? Also, assuming this as the anthem would give Michael Marra the recognition he deserves for all the imaginative work he gave us.
Negative; Well, are we really serious ?
Words by Cliff Hanley
|Hark when the night is fallin, hear, hear the pipes
Loudly and proudly callin' down thru the glen
There where the hills are sleepin', now feel the blood aleapin'
High as the spirits of the old highland men!
Towering in gallant fame,
Scotland the mountain hame!
High may your proud standards gloriously wave!
Land of the high endeavour, land of the shining river,
Land of my heart, forever, Scotland the brave!
High in the misty highlands, out by the purple islands,
Far off in sunlit places, sad are the Scottish faces,
|General Comments; This is a song that people
think they know, but hardly anybody does. It very much has
the feeling of a manufactured piece of tartan self-pride.
It has little to do with real life in Scotland now or at
any time in our history, and does not place us anywhere
internationally except on the lid of the world's
Some people love it, and think it is bold, proud, evocative, and inspiring. Maybe we should ditch the words, and keep just the tune and the title.
Singability; It is very crowded with words, and is very difficult to master at any speed. It sounds best when arranged, with backing band/orchestra.
Playability; Great for a pipe band.
Positive; See "playability". If somebody can sing it well, it can carry great boldness. The tune is already recognised in many parts of the world, and stirs images of pipe bands.
Negative; See all other notes.
|Scots Wha Hae
(original title "Robert Bruce's March to Bannockburn")
words by Robert Burns
|Scots, wha' hae wi' Wallace bled,
Scots wham Bruce has often led,
Welcome to your gory bed,
Or to Victorie!
Now's the day, and now's the hour;
See the front o' battle lour,
See approach proud Edward's pow'r
Chains and slaverie!
Wha will be a traitor knave?
By oppression's woes and pains!
|General Comments; Another song that already has a
long history of being Scotland's "almost-anthem". The tune
(Hey Tutti Tatti) is reputed to be that used by
Robert Bruce on his army's approach to Bannockburn, and it
is said that the tune was already an old tune at that
time. The text has some of the feel of sections of the
Declaration of Arbroath, again giving it deep historical
roots. Further political complexities stem from its
connections to the late 18th Century trials of various
people for sedition. This song has hidden depths !
Singability; Fairly challenging. People would need to learn how to sing this properly. There is a natural tendency to start singing a tune at about the lower-middle of one's vocal range. Scots Wha Hae often catches people out because they have either started too high or too low, but most singers can manage it fine if they start correctly. However, singing in a key to suit a group usually leaves some folk floundering at some point..
Playability; Suits most media well, and can sound very bold and stirring when played well by a pipe or military band.
Positive; Ancient. Respected. Well-known.
Stirring, and simply brimming over with national pride.
Politically, this song also has a secondary layer, more
powerful than the first.
Negative; Again a song that depends on martial
strength rather than humanity. It recalls past battles
(and fighting the English) rather than looking to
ourselves and the wider world. Is it possible to find a
National Anthem that doesn't mention England's King
Edward ? (see also Flower of Scotland !)
Multiple Anthems; Is there a case for having different anthems for different occasions ? For example, the Freedom Come All Ye could be the State Anthem, used at Parliament, at international events, and for the proper opening and closing of gatherings. Flower of Scotland could still be used at sporting events, and Scotland the Brave might be the main instrumental option, for marching bands etc. You can rearrange the titles to suit yourself. Just a suggestion.
A New Anthem; It has often been suggested that a totally new work should be commissioned. The problem with this of course is that we could hold a competition, choose a winner, but still think it unworthy of being the anthem. Then what do you do ? Keep having competitions until you get a decent entry ? (Is the winner of the Eurovision Song Contest always that year's best new song out of Europe ? . . . . Is it ever ?) I think that if a new work is ever to prove suitable, it will come through by itself on merit. We should always keep the option open of changing what we have, although this should never be done as a quick decision. For example, some people have suggested that the tune Highland Cathedral would be very suitable for some newly-composed words; my own feeling is that this is a tune which is currently popular, but that in ten or twenty years it might have lost that appeal. Sometimes long-term decisions are best given a long time to decide.
Quality of Singing; Why can't we sing like the Welsh, the French, the South Africans ? OK, maybe for the French it is just that they have such a singable anthem. But you feel that you could give anything to the Welsh or South Africans and they would render it well. Is it something in the blood, cultural, or to do with education ? Any anthem can be slaughtered. Would in not be great if the anthem was taught in school, in depth, and with harmony parts. People enjoy singing well, but often just don't know how to do it.
Who Should Decide ?;
Being all in favour of democracy, I don't think this is
something for a popular vote ! I once stood in the street
during a very large Devolution demonstration in Edinburgh, and
ran a questionnaire past numerous people, asking them about the
songs listed above. Interestingly, Flower of Scotland received
almost a 100% vote from those people who knew little or nothing
of most of the other possibilities. This group of people was by
far the largest. Of those people I questioned who did know most
or all of the contenders, only very few voted for F.o.S.
That is, Flower of Scotland got the large but largely
ignorant vote, the knowledgeable voters going elsewhere, and
quite well spread also.
Nobody should decide without knowing all the words, singing them all through themselves, and as part of a group, hearing them sung by groups of good and poor singers, sober and lubricated, hearing them played by a small band, by an orchestra, brass band, and pipe band. Then they will have some knowledge. The decision-makers should also know the country and the people they are deciding for. That would cut out quite a lot of the politicians then !
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